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Old 04-07-2013, 08:05 PM   #1
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Default Shooting the Vepr 5.45

I installed a POSP 6x scope on my bone-stock 16 inch Vepr. The scope is quite big and makes the rifle heavy and ungainly, good for precision work but I wouldnt want to drag this out anywhere. Honestly I have been having some second thoughts based on other folks reports and the fact that I wont be able to install one of the Sabrewerks scope mounts on it. But I wanted to be able to do some accuracy testing to see if the Vepr is any better than the Saiga.

I am shooting this at about 85-90 yards, prone using a small garbage pail for a rest, so not the most stable but good enough. I started with the Ukrainian 69 not-so-non-corrosive; not bad shot about 3.1". I tried Wolf 60 HP - about 2.5", not as good I hoped. All of this was about as good as my Saiga. I was going to try some Wolf 55 grain but remembered that I had a box of Hornady 60 grain ammo. I was quite amazed to see about a 0.9" group when I measured this back inside. The Vepr can hang in there! In fairness I should try the Siaga with the Hornady ammo too.


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Old 04-07-2013, 08:30 PM   #2
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Interesting. Try different loads. I thought at one point that the Hornady was the best I could get for my saiga yet from independent tests and my own it actually at times is the least accurate. Ive seen better results from tula and 7n6.

Check out the latest review in the AK magazines they have and they too list the Hornady as less accurate.

Im in no way saying that the ammo is bad by any means, it hits the target, but you might be a little more excited by the results with other load options.
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Old 04-07-2013, 08:43 PM   #3
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I should have mentioned that I have tried 7n6 too, although on another day. Got about 2" groups with the Vepr and about 3" with the Saiga.

As for the Hornady results I was suprised too, hadnt read great reports, and you too confirm this (in the Siaga not the Vepr, correct?). Anyone else try the Hornady in their Vepr?
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Old 04-07-2013, 10:20 PM   #4
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Correct, in my saiga the Hornady hit paper but the groups were a bit off compared to the tula, wolf, golden tiger and the 7n6. Maybe its the poly tip but something doesnt shoot the same with it.

All the loads shot a little different but i noticed the all shot a bit tighter than Hornady, unfortunately i never documented my results but I tested at 50-100 yards with no to little wind.

If this law in NY ever turns around im going to buy another saiga and hopefully a vepr too!

Are you planning on trying with any other loads under similar conditions, I am curious to see what the difference is in the VEPR
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Old 04-08-2013, 07:10 AM   #5
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When i bought the Vepr I was in love and sold my other Saiga. That was just based on quality and the smooth shooting action. I think the Saiga is over gassed. Now I amvery impressed with the accuracy of the Vepr, I did not think a 1 MOA (as measured by 5 shot groups) AK was possible.

I have Bulgie and Russian 7n6, 55 grain wolf, Barnaul (bought back in 2003) and wolf 60 FMJ. Maybe next weekend.

It would be nice if someone built a bolt action 5.45 on either the Zastava or CZ mini mausers.

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